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Season 4, Episode 171

Rewire Your Life and Fulfill Your Potential with Dr Alok Trivedi

A conversation with Dr Alok Trivedi

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About This Episode

If you've been wondering how much self-development and mindset advice is based in science, you will love this episode. I got to talk to my good friend Dr. Alok Trivedi, who is known as Dr. Rewire. Here's how he started our conversation: "When we set up fantasies in our thinking, we set ourselves up for dopamine highs, which lead to dopamine crashes." He is speaking at our Unstoppable Success Summit in a couple of weeks and I can't wait!

Dr. Alok Trivedi is a media personality and expert in health and human behavior. For 25 years he studied the brain to develop the science behind success and fulfillment. Dr. Alok helps sales, leadership teams, and elite entrepreneurs rewire their brain to get to the cause and transform their money, business, and life. His behavior modification system has helped professional athletes and companies like Mobiroo International, Primerica, Draftmore International, and UPS Store to name a few. He is the author of Chasing Success: Lessons In Aligned Performance and has been featured on CBS, NBC, Fox News, Global News, and many more.

In this episode, Dr. Rewire teaches the keys to understanding your own neuroscience, mindset, trauma, pain, and healing. He gives helpful insights on how to use personal development effectively in your life and how to avoid its big pitfalls.

Here's what you will learn:

  • Why vision boards are BS (1:00)
  • What neuroscience is and why it matters (6:30)
  • How the parasympathetic and sympathetic systems work and why they affect you so much (15:21)
  • Where guilt and shame come from when you're successful (22:30)
  • How Dr. Rewire learned to meld Eastern and Western philosophies and techniques (36:00)
  • Why your relationship with money is a reflection of your relationship with yourself (41:10)
  • A quick rewire you can do if you are feeling burned out (52:50)

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Full Transcript

0:00
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Foreign.

0:03
Intro Voiceover

Welcome to True Grit and Grace. Thank you for tuning in. Before we get started with this week's episode, I have a really special announcement, something I want to share with you. And I know it's really important because there's been a lot of resistance around it. I am doing an event in Raleigh, North Carolina on my March 10th and 11th, and the day that I went to launch this event, I woke up and I lost my voice and I

0:31
Amberly Lago

got sick for two weeks. So I got a little better.

0:35
Intro Voiceover

If you've seen me posting on Instagram, you've seen a little bit about this event. But as I sit here sharing this right now, my heart, my husband is in the hospital. Things have not worked on the back end and I'm like, gosh, there's been so much resistance that I know that this event has got to be something really, really important that is going to change lives. It's going to transform not just your lives, but your business. I've created this intimate experience. Only 100 people get to come because I wanted to create something smaller on purpose so you can build meaningful relationships. And success is built on relationships. There's no way I would be getting on all these stages and sharing my story if it weren't for the relationships that I've built. And you know what, it is great to connect online and meet people, but the real deals are made when you get in the room, in the back of the room, in the bathroom at an event. When you get to know, like, trust someone, that is where the magic happens. That is where those relationships form. So come join us in Raleigh, North Carolina, March 10th and 11th. It's coming up soon. And y', all, I've got 12 springs speakers coming in, flying in from all over the country. They're top coaches, podcasters, best selling authors. So if you've got a story that you want to share, if you have a dream of getting on a stage yourself, if you've got a dream of starting a podcast, if you really want to build your impact and your income, then get in the room because it will transform your business. It's going to 10x your business. And I know it can be scary going, oh, my goodness, I gotta find childcare, I gotta get on a plane. It is always, always made a huge difference every single time. I get to go and be in the room and meet people who are like minded, passionate, faith filled and ready to do big things. So come join the Trailblazers. Come meet us in Raleigh. I can't wait to see you and hug your neck. And by the way, my husband's gonna be okay. He's a little antsy, but he's in good spirits. Hopefully he's going to be out of the hospital soon. And I'm just happy I have my voice back. And I can't wait to see in Raleigh. So go to True Grit and Grace forward slash event, forward slash again, that's True Grit and Grace forward slash event, forward slash. Or you can just find the link in my show notes. And you know what? VIP is sold out, but we do have a little, we have a few general admission tickets. And I promise even with a general admission, because it's such an intimate, that experience, you're still going to get the red carpet experience. You're going to get lunch, you're going to have fun. You deserve to do something for yourself. So go get registered today. And if you're listening to this, I

3:37
Amberly Lago

want to give you a special deal

3:38
Intro Voiceover

because I appreciate you tuning into True Grit and Grace. Just put in friends 20 in the checkout and you'll get an extra 20% off. Okay, now on to the show. But I really hope to see you in Raleigh.

3:55
Amberly Lago

Thank you for tuning in to the True Grit and Grace podcast. I'm Amberly Lago and I'll be sharing inspirational stories of resilience and empowering ideas to elevate your business and your life, ignite your passion and fuel your purpose. Hey, it's Amberly Lago here with the True Brit and Grace podcast. I'm so happy you tuned in because I have someone really special on the show today. So excited to introduce you to my good friend, Dr. Alok Trivedi. He is known as Dr. Rewire Worldwide. He's a sought after speaker. In fact, I'm so grateful he's going to be speaking at my summit called the Unstoppable Success Summit. And I can't wait for him to rewire my brain. He is a health and human behavior expert. He's created successful, fulfilled people using neuroscience and he's developed the Aligned Performance Institute. He's an author. He is traveling all over. In fact, he just flew in today to be on the show. So thank you, Dr. Rewire. Thank you for being here.

5:11
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Well, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

5:12
Amberly Lago

Oh, my goodness. Well, you've been featured on all kinds of media. You're a media personality. I mean, you've been in magazines like Shape and something. We're going to get right into it because you say all the goal setting, positive thinking and using vision boards are total B.S.

5:34
Dr. Alok Trivedi

that's right.

5:35
Amberly Lago

So are a lot of people, like, what do you mean? That's bs? That works for me. Explain what you mean by that.

5:41
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Yeah. So most people, right. Let's talk about vision boards, for example, and prepare for your viewers and listeners to be pissed off right off the top. So, yeah, most people who write vision boards, what do they do? They write these things that are fantasies, right? They say, you know what? My life is rough. My life is hard. I want to put down these things that make me feel good, and people get together and have these parties and. And that's all great. It's fantastic. I love the. The idea of it. Here's the problem is that when we set fantasies in our thinking, we set ourselves up for dopamine highs. And those dopamine highs lead to dopamine crashes. And what that does, it creates suicidal thoughts, depression, anxiety, and frustration inside of it. Because what happens is that when you don't actually achieve those things, because it's not just a. You know, the world talks about manifestation. I love manifestation. I'm not against it. However, if we talk about the law of attraction, we have to understand physics. It's not just attracting. If we're attracting something, we're also repelling other things. See, most people are living the law of repulsion rather than the law of attraction. That's why only 5% of people that actually do the vision boards actually have them show up. Because what they're doing is they're attracting them because it's actually important to them. They're not writing a fantasy. So if we're to actually create them, create them where it's strategic, where it's a focus, and it actually starts showing up because it's real to you, not because it's something that someone just said. I'll give you an example, right? You know, people put on these boats and yachts and all these different things inside of that.

7:13
Intro Voiceover

Yeah.

7:14
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Like, I get.

7:15
Amberly Lago

I've never done a vision board. Is that crazy? Like, I know a lot of people that do that. And you look even in their office and they've got the, you know, the jewelry or the designer bag or they've got Oprah or other people on that board. I've never. I've never done that.

7:29
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I don't know that you need to. I don't know that you need to.

7:31
Amberly Lago

Okay, well, good. That's off my list.

7:33
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Your brain already knows what's important to you. You don't need to. Like, if. You know, it's like when people say, you got to have right goals and you got to look at them three times a day. I don't have to look at my goal, at my sheet every day to know that my son, my daughter, important to me. Why do I need to look at something to remind myself of that?

7:48
Amberly Lago

But it is important. I think you said something key, very like that we do need to know what's important to us. Some people may be a little scattered, but really getting to know what's important to you, what your values are.

8:05
Dr. Alok Trivedi

You said the key word right there. The word values is so important. And I've developed an identity process that's neurologically based. And when you actually know what your identity is and what your values actually are, then you'll actually be able to move towards what it is you want to. Then doing a vision board with that incongruence is completely fine. But it's when we do them and they're not congruent to who we are, that's where the problems come in.

8:32
Intro Voiceover

Yeah.

8:33
Amberly Lago

And you know what? I had like a totally like, I lost my identity. And I realized because I was focusing on the wrong thing. So I was so caught up. My identity was, I was the fitness girl, I was the girl sponsored by Nike, I was on the vitamin labels. That was my identity was my physicality. I mean, I know that sounds so shallow, but that's how, that's all I did for work. I was doing videos and infomercials and after my motorcycle accident, that was stripped away and I didn't know who I was. And that's when I had to discover, well, it's not what I do or what I have, it's like what my values are. That's what's important.

9:18
Dr. Alok Trivedi

There's a place in your brain and it's in the pulvinar region of the thalamus. For all my neuroscience geeks who are listening to this. But in that area, you'll filter the world based on your values. I'll give you an example of this. I'll use my son as an example, or any 7 year old boy who's looking at it. Right. If you talk to them about anything that's important to them, go look at their YouTube, go look at their search engines, you'll see what's important to a child at that point in time. I remember when my son was 7, he was looking up dinosaurs, just dinosaurs. But if it's not being taught in school, we sit and say, you know what, you shouldn't learn that. It's not important. My son loves the Astrophysics. He's like, dad, this weekend, he's like, can we get a telescope? Yeah. He's like, look at that star cluster over there.

10:06
Intro Voiceover

Okay.

10:06
Amberly Lago

Our kids are going to be best friends. I'm telling you. That's exactly what she's into. That. Well, that and horses.

10:13
Dr. Alok Trivedi

My son's not into horses. We'll replace that with soccer with him. But that's. Everybody has their own sense of value and what's important to them. But we often, too often, judge other people and tell what's important to other people rather than let other people express what's really important to them.

10:29
Amberly Lago

Yeah. Well, I want to go back to the neuroscience for those who might not understand what that means or what. What is neuroscience?

10:39
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Yeah. So neuroscience is basically the study of the brain and how the brain works and how it allows us to correlate. I am not a neuroscientist. I was a chiropractor by degree.

10:51
Amberly Lago

Oh, I need an adjustment.

10:53
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Everybody says it. But, you know, here's the interesting thing. I. You know, Amberly, people would come into my practice, and I started. I was an avid neuroscience geek. I'd study neuroscience, neurobiology, interpersonal neurobiology, psychoneurobiology, gene expression. I was studying all these material because I just love to learn.

11:11
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

11:11
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And there was a patient who came to me one time, and he says to me, like, my back hurt. And I said, why's your back hurt? He said, I don't know. It hurts. I said, why does your back hurt on the third of every single month? I don't get it. And he says, I don't know. He's like. I said, when did it start? He says, it started yesterday. I said, okay, when goes. Last night. What were you doing? I was arguing with the wife. What were you arguing about? Money. Why? We argue about the mortgage payment. And it clicked. Some clicked inside me. I was like, oh, interesting. So was the back pain really a physical problem, or was it a psychological problem?

11:51
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

11:52
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And so I started with all my work and all the years I postulated all these things that you could do. So I said, what if I asked you these questions? I said, today, what I'm going to do is I'm not going to adjust you. I'm not going to touch your spine. I'm not going to do anything. I'm just going to ask you some questions, and I want to see what happens to your body.

12:06
Intro Voiceover

Really?

12:07
Amberly Lago

I am so interested in this.

12:09
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And so I went and I just asked him maybe seven to 10 questions. He went home, came back the next day, back pain was 80% better. He said, doc, I don't know what you did, but it doesn't hurt anymore. I said, okay, and I asked him final few questions. He went home and then it was done. They came back. And the next month, here's the interesting thing, I was waiting for him to show up on the third of the next month. Really didn't show up.

12:34
Amberly Lago

Wow.

12:35
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I said, why? What's going on? Another month went by, didn't show up. And he said, doc, yeah, I don't know what happened. We talked and money's been better, my relationship's been better. And all of a sudden I started getting this reputation of being able to help people with just asking questions and I wasn't doing anything to their body. And then entrepreneurs came to me. And then we had celebrities, athletes, CEOs. Everyone started coming up. These higher profile people started coming up into my world saying, you can rewire my brain. And here's the interesting thing about it, right? That's why I work in entrepreneurial health, is that I started helping entrepreneurs and their money would increase, but then their health would increase. Like, their blood pressure would go away. Like, I would have cases where diabetes would be reversed, lupus would be reversed.

13:17
Amberly Lago

You're kidding.

13:17
Dr. Alok Trivedi

No. This is all I have. This. And their income would grow up, go up, their business would grow, their relationships would get better. And all of a sudden, like their entire lives were changing by asking these questions and rewiring the brain. And it makes complete sense if you really dive down deep into it. But then I just started creating this reputation. That's what I ended up doing. That's why my, my goal is to help entrepreneurs realize that, like, this whole grind it out, work hard mentality is breaking you down and destroying you.

13:47
Amberly Lago

It's killing you. You're going to hit a wall. You're going to. I mean, I say that because there was one year I ended up in the ER six times. I'm, I. Sometimes the circulation in my leg is not always great. If I get like a little nick, I can get an infection, but it's when I get run down. The doctor came to me, she said, you, what is going on with you? Like, you can't be coming in here anymore. You've got to take care of yourself better care of yourself. And I was like, oh, wow, that was the last time I went in the er, that from that moment I was like, I've got to make a change. Like, and my girlfriend said, your impact is only as strong as you are healthy. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. Well, and I just had a conversation with my dad on the phone this morning, and I've been really trying to work with his mindset and stuff. He's got a lot. He's got neuropathy. He has a lot of pain. He's just being tested for a lot of other medical issues that were praying is everything's okay. And I told him, I said, you know, dad, what? I said, I can explain. So I have this nerve disease called complex regional pain syndrome. And when people ask me about it, I start to feel it more.

15:03
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Sure.

15:04
Amberly Lago

So I don't like to talk about it a lot because I will all of a sudden start to feel flared up as I'm describing it. And my dad goes, really? I said, oh, yeah, your mind is powerful. Like you. I said, if I start thinking about that. That's why I love the work that I do, because I don't focus on my leg in pain just sitting here talking to you. I started feeling it more.

15:29
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Sure.

15:30
Amberly Lago

And so I am curious. What. Have you ever worked with anybody who has CRPs? You have, really?

15:39
Dr. Alok Trivedi

So what happens is this, Right. You've heard the saying before, many people, nerves that wire together, fire together. Right. So that's a very common thing that's out there completely. However, if you have someone has that type of a syndrome, so to speak. Right. And understand the word syndrome is really just a. I don't know why it's causing this. Yeah, right.

16:01
Intro Voiceover

Yeah.

16:02
Amberly Lago

Some people are like, it's a disease. It's a syndrome. Yeah.

16:07
Dr. Alok Trivedi

It's a hyperactivity of the nervous system based on the trauma that you went through. And once I go rewire that trauma, that syndrome will subside.

16:18
Amberly Lago

That's incredible.

16:20
Dr. Alok Trivedi

It'll diminish unless there's any physical, other ailments inside of it. But you got to remember this is that in every physical ailment, there's an emotional component. And medically, we look at it and say, okay, well, here's just the physical side of it. And thank God for what they do. I'm not taking away an ounce away from what they do inside, what they did to save your life and what they did. However, in the healing journey of an individual, everyone has to look at this for themselves. You have to take the emotional component of any trauma in place as well. Right. If you have a physical trauma, you have a psychological trauma. If you have a psychological trauma, you have a physical trauma. It's not one or the other, it's both. Right?

17:01
Amberly Lago

Yeah. I Agree.

17:03
Dr. Alok Trivedi

People talk about, you know, like.

17:05
Amberly Lago

And a lot of times people try to stuff that down. That's what I did anyway. You stuff it down. You stuff it down and. Or you try to numb it out by eating too much, shopping too much, drinking too much instead of really healing.

17:23
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Yeah. And it is. Right. People say we have a mental health problem in our country. And I'm going to sit and tell you that it's not mental health number one. It's positive thinking. Positive thinking creates more depression than anything else.

17:37
Amberly Lago

You are what?

17:39
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Yep.

17:40
Amberly Lago

Positive thinking. But what do you mean? Like, so I have a mean inner critic. So I can. I mean, if I talked to people the way that I talk to myself, I wouldn't have any friends. It'd be, you know.

17:53
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Well, this is, this is exactly it. Right. So if you look at the neural, the body, the mind, you are such a supportive, loving person. But. And that is the beauty of who you are on the outside. However, if that person has the inner critic, as you're saying, which people do, the inner critic is to balance out the over positivity on the outside. Because your brain is not designed to be positive and it's not designed to be negative. It's actually designed to be positive at times. It's designed to be negative at times. You have two parts of a nervous system, right. You have a parasympathetic and a sympathetic.

18:29
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

18:30
Dr. Alok Trivedi

You have both sides and they have to work in harmony inside of it. But most people.

18:34
Amberly Lago

Wait, wait, explain what is parasympathetic do and what is sympathetic. So people don't know what that is. I know a little bit of it because of the CRPs, but yes, explain that.

18:46
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Sympathetic is when you're in fight and flight.

18:48
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

18:48
Dr. Alok Trivedi

This is the part that's stressed out. It's super, super intense. And that's the fight, flight, freeze mechanism inside of it. And the parasympathetic is the rest and digest. Relax. That's the part like they want to go on a vacation. Wine and dine is what they say. Right.

19:05
Amberly Lago

Okay.

19:06
Dr. Alok Trivedi

So that's the relaxing part of the nervous system.

19:08
Amberly Lago

Okay, let me ask you something. So because I deal with pain a lot and I want to get back to how you can rewire that too. What? And I feel, I feel like I'm in fight or flight. Like my body's like in almost in survival mode. And I don't want to be that way. I want to be in more that parasympathetic. Does the parasympathetic have to come in and go on overdrive to try to balance that out or what happens?

19:34
Dr. Alok Trivedi

No, it's a great question. And you're not alone. Entrepreneurs as a whole.

19:39
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

19:40
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Are on high sympathetic overdrive.

19:42
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

19:42
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And what it does, it causes your adrenals to burn out.

19:47
Amberly Lago

I just had blood work and spitting a bunch of test tubes and he's like, your thyroid's not working and your adrenals are fatigued.

19:54
Dr. Alok Trivedi

That's right. And that there's a. It's all connected inside that.

19:57
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

19:58
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And so those two factors are in place because your body's out of balance. Right. And they'll look at it medically and see you're out of balance. However, it's because you're grinding too hard, you're working to it. But the brain, if you're always trying to be positive and you set an idealism that you can never achieve, nobody's ever going to be. Nobody's ever been born and never ever will be born to be 100% positive all the time, it's impossible because it's not natural. And so if we're always trying to be positive, then, and we don't achieve it, we'll judge ourselves. We'll say, oh my gosh, geez, alok you can't believe you said that. You're so mean. And then the negative conversations happen to ourselves and then we judge the critic in ourselves and then we blame ourselves and we put guilt, shame and resentment onto ourselves instead of other people. And then we start to hate ourselves.

20:51
Amberly Lago

Wow.

20:52
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And the problem with that is that if you hate yourself, you're never going to love yourself. And if you hate yourself and you're stuck in that emotional pattern, you're going to eat crappy foods, you're not going to want to work out, you're going to get addicted to drugs because these things are there to make yourself feel better. You're going to look for sugars, drugs, sex, all these things just to make yourself feel better. And we're constantly surviving in this pattern. What, what I'm proposing to people is what if you can rewire your brain and no longer have this positivity or this negativity and actually can be authentic and truly authentic and love who you are for the goods, the bads, the rights, the wrongs, the highs, the lows, and appreciate yourself for who you really are, Then what happens is your nervous system stops this hyper overdrive and you engage some of the parasympathetic.

21:44
Amberly Lago

Okay.

21:45
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And it's not just about, you know, people will meditate, say, okay, I'm Activating my parasympathetic nervous system. Let me. Breathing exercise. Great. If you have two parts of. If this is your fight or flight, the sympathetic and this is the relaxed part. People are trying to raise this up.

22:00
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

22:01
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Let's just lower this down.

22:02
Amberly Lago

Oh, yeah.

22:03
Intro Voiceover

It's a good way to look at it, right?

22:05
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

22:05
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Let's just take all this stress and lower that instead of trying to raise this up to meet. That doesn't work that way. So I just went through a lot. I know I did. So bear. You know, for the listeners. I apologize for going a little aggressive.

22:18
Amberly Lago

No, I'm. I mean, I'm fascinated with it, you know, and. And I have, you know, just. I'm. I mean, grit and grace. I feel like is. Is that balance. And I'm really good at the grit. I will tell you that there's not a lot of things I can say I'm good at, but I. I'm a little too good at it. I have to make myself slow down because I just want to go. I just want to. And I grew up, you know, where it was like, no pain, no gain. Like, work hard, work harder, work harder. And then I was on survival mode a lot, and I've just shifted that and really started to seek out, like, how to be more in alignment. And so I am curious. I want to go back to, of course, the CRPS stuff.

23:11
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Sure.

23:11
Amberly Lago

Okay. Now, I have had every kind of treatment you could imagine from eastern, western medication. I've even laid on a table and had some guy drip oil on my forehead and chant over me. Okay. I was desperate. I had one time where I went and this guy put, like, electro things on my head and on my wrist, and he would run all this machine and tell me what was good and what wasn't working and gave me. I was on 73 homeopathic pills a day and 11 prescription medications, and nothing was working. And that's when I started to think, well, I need to get my mindset right. If I can get my mindset right, then it may not cure. Cure this syndrome, but I can get through it.

24:02
Intro Voiceover

Sure.

24:03
Amberly Lago

What kind of work or what kind of things have you done with someone who has come into you, come to you and said, hey, I've got complex regional pain syndrome. Cure me, help me, fix me.

24:15
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Well, I don't work at it that way. It's not like I go after a syndrome. It's not like I go after diseases. Right. What I do is I find out where's the person imbalanced.

24:24
Amberly Lago

Mm.

24:24
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Right. And where is the imbalance? Find the imbalance, rewire the imbalance, and create balance in the body.

24:30
Amberly Lago

Okay, let's rewire me.

24:31
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Okay. I don't want to do that publicly right now. I know you're an open book.

24:34
Amberly Lago

I. I am, But I will.

24:36
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I'll do it, and then we'll come back into another episode. How about that?

24:39
Amberly Lago

Okay, let's do that.

24:40
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Right? Because I'd rather do that privately with you.

24:43
Amberly Lago

Okay. Because. Yeah, I might ugly cry or something.

24:46
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Well, I don't want to ugly cry as well.

24:48
Amberly Lago

Okay. But we'll do that later.

24:50
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Interestingly enough, what happens is that as we sit and rebalance our body, rebalance our brain, we actually evolve our thinking. And when you don't need to hold on to these emotional patterns, then we actually evolve our brain and to use more of our brain and use more of our evolutionary brain. And what it does, it allows us to create longevity. So if you're sitting there as an entrepreneur, you're sitting there listening. Okay. There's a lot of science talk on this. There's a lot of neuroscience, but for someone who's stuck in a stressful pattern, what you're doing is you're using the lower parts of your brain versus the more conscious part of your brain.

25:33
Amberly Lago

Okay. So, like, okay, we have survival brain, we have emotional brain, and we have executive brain.

25:40
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Executive function. Yeah.

25:41
Amberly Lago

Okay, so you say, when we're stressed out, are we more in the more survival brain?

25:46
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Absolutely. That's the amygdala, or you've all heard the amygdala before, right? Yeah, that's the emotional center, the emotional, immediate part of the brain. So it's reflexive. It's always, I got to get this done. I got to get this done. I got to get this done. I like to say it this way. When you're in the amygdala of the brain, you live your life on these three mantras. I need to, I have to, and I should.

26:10
Amberly Lago

I have to admit something. I've kind of been in that mode lately because I've just come back from, like, three different speaking events. We're getting ready for our event here in a few weeks in March that I'm super excited about.

26:25
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Amazing.

26:26
Amberly Lago

But I'm still. I'm like, oh, I need to do this. I have to do this. I should do this. Like, I've been in that mode.

26:33
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Yeah. And then what that does, it elicits the sympathetic nervous system. The fight or flight nervous system.

26:39
Intro Voiceover

Yes.

26:40
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And so when we psychologically look at that, we say Okay. I need to. I have to. This is. This is someone else telling me what to do. Should is a dangerous one.

26:49
Amberly Lago

Oh, yeah, sure. What do we say? I get to.

26:53
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Well, it's not the matter. You get to. Right. You can just shift it and that's fine. But then that's not really what you mean. A lot of personal development programs will say, well, I'll just shift that. But if you evolve the brain, you move to I should. I should is actually telling you that it's not what you want to do, it's what somebody else is telling you to do.

27:09
Amberly Lago

Oh, okay.

27:10
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And so. But the emotion that comes out of that is guilt.

27:14
Amberly Lago

Yeah, for sure.

27:15
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And shame. I don't want to do this, but I should do this to make someone else happy. Never not happy myself. And then you move to decide to. That's where a lot of people live. You have choice. You have the ability to decide. That's pretty much what I call middle class America. Right. We can decide what we want to do. Great. But then we move into the upper part of the brain, which is executive function. You move into that. I want to. I get. I want to do this. I don't have to do this. I want to. I choose to. I choose to. I choose to is dangerous. I choose to is dangerous. It's the most dangerous one, believe it or not.

27:49
Amberly Lago

I choose to.

27:50
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I choose to because you think you've got life figured out.

27:54
Amberly Lago

Oh, I see.

27:56
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Right. You think you're probably making more money than everyone else around you, more money than anyone in your family. You have choice. You've got money in the bank. You're investing in the market. You probably got a couple of houses, some real estate. I found that a person who's in the choose to is making between 200 to $300,000 a year. Right. 150 or $300,000 a year. But really, ultimately, what we want to get to this point where you get to say, I love Sue.

28:19
Amberly Lago

I love to.

28:19
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I love to do.

28:21
Amberly Lago

You know. I mean, I think love is the best business strategy ever. And I was just at an event, actually. Our friend Ken Joslin. Do you know Vic Keller?

28:30
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I don't.

28:31
Amberly Lago

He's amazing. I have to introduce. He's amazing. He lives here in Dallas, but he is, you know, billionaire, very successful. And when he's speaking about success, which is a big word. I know you say, that's a big word. I'm like, okay, I got my notes. I'm ready to take some notes. And he's like, the best business strategy Is love.

28:55
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I agree. I agree.

28:57
Amberly Lago

Because so how do you shift when you're in that mode and you are like, I have to do this. Oh, I should be doing this. Oh, I have to do this and this. I need to get this done. How do you start to shift that? How do you start to rewire your brain?

29:12
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Yeah. So first, anything that's a need to, should to, or have to delegate, delegate that to somebody else to get it done.

29:20
Amberly Lago

Okay, okay.

29:21
Dr. Alok Trivedi

That's number one. But I want you to think about a framework.

29:24
Amberly Lago

Okay.

29:25
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And the framework is this is if you had the choice and if you could do whatever you wanted to, and what would you love to ultimately do? You'd write it down, right? I suggest all the listeners write it down. And then here's what the answer is going to be. Yeah, but. Yeah, but you're going to say, I'd love to be able to, you know, build a business where I get to be. Be on fitness. Okay, great. Yeah, but.

29:56
Amberly Lago

Well, do you know, in my mastermind. So we all. They get to sit in the hot seat and we go around and ask clarifying questions, and then we go around and offer suggestion, and they can only say thank you.

30:09
Dr. Alok Trivedi

That's right.

30:09
Amberly Lago

When they get the suggestion, the rule is that they can't say, well, yeah, but I tried that. Oh, no. But I'm like, nope. All you get to say is thank you.

30:21
Dr. Alok Trivedi

That's smart. Because as your. Yeah, but comes in, you want to then say to yourself, is that true or fact? Is that truth or fact? Because you'll say something like, oh, you know what? I'm not healthy enough to be on a fitness model. Okay, Is that truth or fact? I'm just using a random example off top of my head. Well, it's a truth. A truth is a perception. A fact is an actual fact. Right. Like right now we're sitting in Dallas, outside, it seems like it's 45 degrees, right? At 6pm It's 45 degrees. That's a statistical fact. That's objective. A truth is actually very open. It can be subjective. Right. So you want to ask yourself, is it true or is it a fact? And you'll realize just by simply doing that, you're going to realize you have a lot of truths in there rather than actual facts. And those truths can all be completely shifted. Once you realize that, you're going to realize, wait, this is not true, that's not true, that's not true. And you'll start to grow inside of it.

31:24
Amberly Lago

Okay, well, I'm really curious.

31:26
Intro Voiceover

So

31:29
Amberly Lago

In Raleigh, North Carolina, you are setting up the audience to be open for transformation. Like we can hear all the things, we can learn all the tips and tools and tactics. But you were saying if you're not open, you're not going to make the change. So how do you give us a little taste of how that works and how you do that?

31:53
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Well, I'm going to take people right in the audience. I'm going to walk into the audience and I'm going to take two, three, four people, depending on how much time I have, and I'm just going to rewire them right then and there. And what they're going to do is they're going to find what's holding them back. Right. I like to say, I like that everyone says, it's your why. You got to know your why. And I sit and say it's not your why, it's your why not. Because you know your why. Everybody knows their why. The real question is why aren't you going after doing the things you say you want to do? Once I figure out the why not, I'll rewire that right on the spot. I'll do it within 10 minutes. I'll be able to rewire them right there and I'll figure it out and we'll just do it right on the spot. And as we do that, here's what's going to happen in that room. I'm going to rewire the entire room simultaneously as that person's getting rewired and that energy of that person will shift. Their neurology will balance out and in doing so, everyone else in the rooms will as well.

32:47
Amberly Lago

Energy is contagious. It is, really is. And I don't think unless you have, unless you have been to an in person event, there is just nothing like, it's like energy is everything and everything is energy. And when you're in a room and you feel that shift and you feel that energy, it's incredible. Talk about a dopamine hit like it.

33:16
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Well, in that room there won't be dopamine.

33:17
Amberly Lago

What will there be?

33:18
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Serotonin? Oh, it won't be dopamine. Dope. Because I'll tell you something, this is very important inside dopamine.

33:26
Amberly Lago

I'm a dopamine kind of junkie though, like you. Well, maybe. What? Okay, I say that because, you know, I was down on the ground doing push ups before we started.

33:38
Dr. Alok Trivedi

You're just trying to increase your adrenaline.

33:40
Amberly Lago

Yeah, yeah. Just getting the energy up. But okay. I like the idea that you say dopamine is hype. So that's why people get addicted to, like, social media, because they're like, oh, got a dopamine hit. They liked that post. They're living for the likes and the views and the.

33:57
Dr. Alok Trivedi

So most people don't understand where dopamine. Not to say you don't, but dopamine is anticipation.

34:03
Amberly Lago

Really? I never thought of it that way.

34:05
Dr. Alok Trivedi

So let's give your audience a whole neuroscience add on to this.

34:09
Amberly Lago

Okay. I'm geeking out over here.

34:11
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Okay. There's three parts. Remember I said there's a sympathetic nervous system?

34:14
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

34:15
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Okay, let's put this together. There's three neurotransmitters that, in essence activate the three big. There's more, but these are the three big ones. You have norepinephrine, epinephrine, which we've heard of.

34:26
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

34:27
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And dopamine.

34:29
Amberly Lago

Okay, so I've heard of those.

34:31
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Dopamine becomes a sympathetic neurotransmitter, which is the stress neurotransmitter.

34:38
Amberly Lago

No, I didn't realize that.

34:39
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I know. That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah. It's a stress neurotransmitter. And what it does, it actually causes you to become more stressed out.

34:47
Amberly Lago

You're kidding.

34:48
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Nope. Look at someone who's watching TikTok, they start getting ticks because they're always looking for the next best thing. That's why I wrote the book Chasing Success, because we're always searching for the next dopamine hit, but what it's doing is breaking our bodies down. So it's in that room. That's why a lot of people will go to events. And this is not going to be at your event. I know. Because we're going to set the tone in this fashion.

35:12
Amberly Lago

We are. And I've chosen very carefully how I've curated this and put it together and the people that I'm having there. And that's why I'm having you, like, rewire the room in the very beginning.

35:28
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Yeah. Because a lot of times when people go to events, they go on the high of the dopamine, and then three or four days later, they crash.

35:37
Amberly Lago

Well, do you know what happened to me? So I went to my first Tony Robbins event with a girlfriend. Let me tell you, the energy for. He spoke for almost four hours straight. He was incredible. Like, I. I couldn't believe it. This journey he takes you on. And I mean, I'm talking. He was standing right in front of me, like, clapping the clap, spitting on me. He was that close. He Was. And he just talks me. I'm like, oh, my gosh, he's spitting on the dopamine. I mean, you were just up. You're dancing, you're jumping. The next day, I crashed so hard. I called my girlfriend, and I'm like, are you just exhausted? She goes, I was. I. I didn't even want to call you. She goes, I thought I was a little embarrassed like that. I feel so low and so tired. I can't get out of bed.

36:35
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And. And not toning it. I mean, that's what happens with a lot of events. That's what happens with a lot of people when they get over dopamine stimulated, they become exhausted. Remember I said a little while ago, positive thinking leads to depression. Oh, it's the same thing. It's no different. When we become too positive, then we lead to clinical depression. You can't move afterwards because it goes up and it goes down. So when people go to events, that's why it's not gonna happen. This event. We're gonna rewire the room first to set the serotonin, not the dopamine to come up. We're gonna set the serotonin to come up. Which is the feel good hormone.

37:08
Amberly Lago

Yes.

37:08
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Which is the gratitude hormone. Right. We're gonna get the state room in a state of gratitude first, in a true sense of balance and gratitude. Then you don't have the ups and downs. You actually have grace inside of the neurotransmitter. Balance. That's what we're gonna build inside that room.

37:23
Amberly Lago

Oh, I love that. Gratitude is so powerful. That's really my medicine. I have a gratitude practice with a few of my best friends. And I'll admit there's some days I'm like, oh, I didn't do my gratitude journal today. You know, And I have. It's just an app. It's a quick app, and you write it in and we share it. It works because it instantly makes you feel good. It makes you feel better. It's like, it really does work. In fact, a girl I haven't talked to in a while, I need to reach out to. She. I did a webinar, and I talked about how gratitude is alchemy, and it changed her life. She was like. I was always so, like, down and depressed, and I started practicing gratitude, and. And it really helped me. So. Yeah. I want to talk a little bit about your book.

38:20
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Sure.

38:21
Amberly Lago

So which one? Well, the Chasing Success. What year did you write that?

38:27
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I wrote that in 2016. Okay, 2016. We just re released it and it's back.

38:34
Amberly Lago

How long did it take you to write it?

38:35
Dr. Alok Trivedi

It took me a year. Yeah, it took me a year to write that. And I wrote that with. It was a really interesting way that I wrote it. I took neuroscience. I took, you know, Vedic wisdom, and I kind of combined the two into a story.

38:51
Amberly Lago

What's Vedic wisdom?

38:52
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Vedic wisdom is like East Indian wisdom from the East.

38:56
Amberly Lago

Oh.

38:58
Dr. Alok Trivedi

So what I do is I've. I take neurotransmitters and all this sciency stuff, and I correlate it to Vedic wisdom and Eastern mysticism.

39:08
Amberly Lago

I love that.

39:09
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And I give Eastern mysticism a scientific space.

39:14
Amberly Lago

Wow.

39:15
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And. And when we can understand, like I've always said. And I don't want to go too far down this rabbit hole, but I've always said theology is what breeds science, and science is what gives theology meaning. And they both need each other, but we're not looking at it in the right language. And so I've always been on this quest to be able to try and figure the two out. And human consciousness is kind of from that. So that's kind of where I came with that. So I wrote the book in that fashion, and I put into a story that people in their, you know, in today's world can relate and understand. And the lessons are using these two different sides of the pole.

39:51
Amberly Lago

Yeah. I think that storytelling is such a great way to. To learn. I like storytelling.

39:58
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Storytelling, for sure, definitely makes it easier to understand sometimes, that's for sure.

40:02
Amberly Lago

Yeah. Well, now, how did you get into, like, the. Those types of studies and the mysticism? Is that what it is?

40:11
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I don't know much about mysticism, but just Eastern. Eastern philosophies.

40:15
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

40:15
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Yoga.

40:16
Amberly Lago

Did you grow up with that? You did.

40:18
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Being an Indian guy.

40:20
Intro Voiceover

Where'd you.

40:20
Amberly Lago

Where did you. Where were you born?

40:22
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I was born and raised in Toronto, Canada.

40:24
Amberly Lago

Oh, wow.

40:25
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Toronto, Canada.

40:26
Amberly Lago

And I've always wanted to go to Canada.

40:28
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Great city. Great city. Challenge was, though, is that in Canada, like, my dad was much more Western in his philosophies. My mother was very Eastern in her philosophies. And so I grew up in an environment in the west, but very rooted in Eastern philosophies. And so really, it was really an interesting paradigm to live in. And I grew up, you know, and I grew up watching Deepak. Right. He's my uncle.

40:58
Amberly Lago

What?

40:59
Dr. Alok Trivedi

No, I'm just joking with you.

41:00
Amberly Lago

I'm like, what?

41:02
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I have the greatest Deepak impression. Ready?

41:04
Amberly Lago

Do it, do it, do it.

41:05
Dr. Alok Trivedi

The infinite consciousness that exists in our infinite potentiality. Will exist all throughout time.

41:15
Amberly Lago

That was good.

41:16
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I one day want to do it in front of him, but I haven't met him yet. So. No, actually I did meet him. I didn't met him at a book signing, but. But no, he's not my uncle. I just make had that joke. But so I grew up and he. And I was watching him and, and I was like, he's taking eastern philosophy, applying it to the western world. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. And I've always kind of been on this quest to be able to do that and understand the mind body connection. And that's really what I, that's really my expertise is, is mind body connection.

41:46
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

41:46
Dr. Alok Trivedi

But I just talk to entrepreneurs around is how, how do we heal ourselves?

41:50
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

41:50
Dr. Alok Trivedi

How do we heal our minds? How do we heal our bodies?

41:52
Amberly Lago

We need this so bad because there are so many entrepreneurs that are really struggling, I mean seriously struggling with also feeling alone. Like that's one of the reasons I started my mastermind is because when I started as an entrepreneur, I didn't have any guidance or help and writing my book and starting my podcast and then going to speak, speaking events and all this thing. I was like, we need community and we need to talk about this and we need to come together and gather strength and community. And I think what you're doing, so many entrepreneurs need so much that mind body connection and to take better care of themselves because I'm so sick of that, that, that hustle mentality that is killing people, literally killing people.

42:44
Dr. Alok Trivedi

It is.

42:44
Amberly Lago

And you know, I really, really through my journey have come to the realization that, you know, grit without connection, without community is resistance. It's clawing your way at the top. It is feeling like you're walking through quicksand. And then grit with connection is resilience. Is that connection. And when I say connection, I mean connection to yourself, your mind, your body, your heart, God or whatever you believe. And I believe in God connection to each other. And, and so I love that you're doing that. Well, where, where can people get your book?

43:28
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Just get on chasing successbook.com or you can go to Amazon. It's all over Amazon Inside that got a new book that should be out hopefully by the time of the event.

43:37
Amberly Lago

Are you serious?

43:38
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Yeah. Wired for Wealth.

43:39
Amberly Lago

Oh, that's right, you told me about that.

43:41
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Wired for wealth should be up by the time of the event too.

43:43
Amberly Lago

So that could be out in three weeks. Wow.

43:48
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Just talk with the publisher publishing company right now. So hopefully, hopefully though that'll be up. But yeah, Wired for Wealth is specifically for entrepreneurs to rewire their brain around money and their money traumas that are holding back so they can actually rewire them and start making money and get rid of. Rid of the. The resentment, get rid of the guilt, the shame, and put them on a path towards financial abundance.

44:07
Amberly Lago

Because it's all I really. You got. I have to introduce you to Chris that I just interviewed on the podcast because we were talking about your. Chris Noggle is his name and he is on the show. He's brilliant with money as well. And just talking about your relationship with money. And I know for me, I wasn't motivated by money. It was like this weird thing where I grew up in the Bible Belt. Whereas, like, don't talk about money. You don't want to have too much money. You don't want to shine too bright, give all your money away. Like, it was weird. So I thought I just switched the way that I think about money. I think the more money I make, the more good I can do in the world. We were talking about that before we started recording about how my graphics guy in India, I was like, look at this. All of the, you know, I can pay him. I've referred him clients, and now he's opened up an office and he's bought a car and he's, you know, so I've, like, switched the way that I think. And I think, well, the more money I make, the more I can do good things, the bigger the impact I can make. And I want other people to have that.

45:22
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I think as entrepreneurs, that's why we get into the game, right? Is. Is to be able to. To make an impact. And I'll just say this is that, you know, your relationship to money is 100% correlated to your. Your relationship to yourself. If you actually appreciate yourself and are great, are grateful for all of who you are, that voice on the inside is not saying, you jerk, you idiot, you dumbass, why'd you do those things? Right? It's actually saying, you know what? I love who you are. You had. You're a productive, serving human being and you're doing great things in the world. There are moments where you're going to be up and down, but you love who you are.

45:58
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

45:59
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Money will flow to you and you're not going to push it away.

46:02
Amberly Lago

It's so true. I mean, everything you're saying, okay, so as soon as I really believed that, like, I knew, I'll give you an example, my mastermind, I was like, oh, man, this is a Steal for people to get to do. I was like, I might need to raise this price because I know what I'm giving.

46:28
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Sure.

46:29
Amberly Lago

I'm not kidding you. It just came to me, like it just started to flow.

46:34
Intro Voiceover

I.

46:35
Amberly Lago

People were coming out of the woodwork. How can I be a part of your next mastermind? You know what I mean? And I'm not saying that to try to brag. I'm really not. I'm not like one of those people that, oh, I'm so great. It's not that it was a belief, a deep belief, not in. Not even necessarily me, but on what I could provide for people that shifted everything.

46:59
Dr. Alok Trivedi

It's like, you got to believe. I think you got to believe this. Right? And I say this. If you don't value yourself, why would the universe value you? Yeah, right.

47:06
Intro Voiceover

So true.

47:07
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And so if whatever your belief is, it doesn't really matter. But if you don't value you, it's like the universe is waiting for you to find value in yourself and love who you are so that it actually will bring you abundance.

47:17
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

47:17
Dr. Alok Trivedi

But if we're stuck with these emotions of positive and negative and right and wrong and good and bad and all these judgments inside of our head, then what we're going to do is we're going to limit all these things and we're going to stop money from coming to ourselves, because we're going to be angry and resentment. And here's the thing, it's going to lead to. It's going to lead to sclerosis in the heart and heart disease and atherosclerosis and blood pressure issues. Or we're going to lead to say, you know what? I'm not good enough. I don't deserve money. Then you're going to lead to the lymphatic issues and guilt issues. And now the body. The body is the conduit of consciousness. The body is the conduit of consciousness. If we understand health in the human body, then we understand what's happening in the mind. And then when we understand what's happening with the mind, then we actually understand what's happening in people's lives. We could now correlate this whole thing, and we. I can look at someone's lab work and their neurotransmitter and tell you their psychology.

48:08
Intro Voiceover

Really?

48:09
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Oh, it's. It's unbelievable, the things that we can.

48:12
Amberly Lago

Okay, tell me, then. Tell me. So they just said, you know, my adrenals are a little fatigued. Put me on.

48:19
Dr. Alok Trivedi

You want this public?

48:20
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

48:21
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I don't care.

48:21
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

48:22
Dr. Alok Trivedi

You're like, I don't care.

48:23
Amberly Lago

Yeah. I mean, I keep it real with my audience because a lot of times I think that when people see the highlight reel on social media, and I

48:34
Dr. Alok Trivedi

love that about you, you know, or

48:36
Amberly Lago

they say, oh, she's got a top 1% podcast. She's got it all figured out. I don't have it all figured out. I'm trying to do the best that I can, and I feel like when we share that, yeah, I got some stuff going on. I'm working on it. I'm working on fixing that. My health is very important to me, and I'm grateful that I get to do the things that I can do because, look, I was told I'd be in a wheelchair and I'm like, walking around doing push ups. Get to be here with you. But no, I like to keep it real. But, yeah, psychologically, I think I know. But if you read my labs and you're like, oh, wow, you're. Well, the doctor said you wake up and you're real resilient, then throughout the day, you crash your cortisol levels, blah, blah, blah. That's the kind of talk. Tell me the psychology of that. What's going on?

49:27
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Well, you're waking up in the morning. I need more information than what you've given me, to be very honest with you.

49:32
Amberly Lago

Okay. Okay.

49:32
Dr. Alok Trivedi

But I can tell you just by thyroid and adrenal being off, you're overstressed. You're in the have to need to state, which we talked about. Right. You've overburdened yourself. Yeah, at some level maybe. And it could be another. I don't know. I'm totally speaking just generally. If you overburden yourself as a financially, as an entrepreneur, your adrenals will get affected. If you overburden yourself in relationships, your adrenal will become affected. Thyroid adrenals and your sex hormones are all interconnected.

50:02
Amberly Lago

Oh, let's get to this. Let's get to this.

50:04
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I don't mean like, I don't mean sex sex. I mean like estrogen or testosterone.

50:08
Amberly Lago

Okay.

50:08
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Are affected because of that. If you're over.

50:10
Amberly Lago

It's all connected, right?

50:11
Dr. Alok Trivedi

It is over. It's 100% connected. Right. It's. I'm also certified in functional medicine and in. Because I wanted to understand what is the connection between all of this?

50:22
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

50:22
Dr. Alok Trivedi

How does this all work? And so if your. Your functional chemistry is saying, hey, look, my thyroid's off, my adrenals are off, my. And my testosterone is too high, which I would Bet would probably be something that's there. Your testosterone is probably higher than normal.

50:35
Amberly Lago

Well, you know, it was surprising is that he was like, I can't believe that with this going on. He goes, your gut health is really good, and your hormone levels are pretty good. Like, I'm 50, but I'm going strong.

50:50
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Yeah, but that. I wouldn't agree with that because, really. Well, if your adrenals are affected, your thyroid's affected, your hormones can't be. Can't be in great sleep. They all.

50:58
Amberly Lago

Well, I'd like to have you look at that. I got it on my phone. I need.

51:01
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Look, there's what. See, a lab range will say from 0 to 10. It's such a wide range. There's an optimal range inside of it you got to look at as well. And so a lot of times doctors aren't talking about that. But let's just go back to kind of what's happening with your psychology. Burned out, not expressing really what. There's things inside of you that you want to say that you're not saying to certain people.

51:23
Amberly Lago

Oh, really?

51:24
Dr. Alok Trivedi

There's a voice that's trying to be said.

51:25
Amberly Lago

Really? And I just lost my voice. What happened with that? That's last week.

51:31
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Interconnected. Could be interconnected.

51:34
Amberly Lago

Okay, this is very interesting.

51:35
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Is it. Was there. Were you married before?

51:38
Amberly Lago

Oh, yeah, this is my third go round. Third time's the charm.

51:41
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Typically, what I found is that women in relationships, women have a lot of thyroid issues. Two reasons. Number one, on a body chemistry side, women under eat, under eight, under eats. They don't put enough calories in.

51:55
Amberly Lago

Oh, man, I love to eat. My husband, I'll never forget our first date, he was like, are you really gonna eat all that? And I'm like, oh, yeah, I like to eat good.

52:07
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Right. But most women, they're trying to stay petite and stay their physiques. They don't put enough calories into their system.

52:14
Amberly Lago

Okay, gotcha. Yeah, I could. I could see where that would happen.

52:17
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Like, they're in chicken salads, you know, lunch and dinner. That's not enough of a balanced diet. So that becomes an issue number one. So we can't not address that. But the second factor, what I found that from the psychosomatic side, is that there's some trauma or some relationship issue and past resentment towards an expouse. And our friend Rebecca Zung, as she talks about narcissistic relationship.

52:39
Amberly Lago

Oh, yeah, I had one of those.

52:40
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I was gonna say it has to. In my experience, it always kind of lives in that space. But you go back, you rewire that. If we rewire that, then the thyroid starts to work again. See, the body is. If the body can. If it's living, if it can degenerate. I hope everyone understands this. If your body can degenerate, that means it also has the capacity to regenerate.

53:01
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

53:02
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Don't give yourself the ability to not regenerate and heal. Because if you sit and say that I can't, then you won't.

53:09
Amberly Lago

Yes, that. I have that conversation with my dad all the time.

53:13
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Time.

53:13
Amberly Lago

Like, I. It's so powerful what you say. And it. It happens.

53:20
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Like, it happens. And we have the ability to do that. And so our human body is the most miraculous thing that ever exists.

53:29
Amberly Lago

It is. It is unbelievable. Things shifted for me. So I used to look down at my leg and I hated it. Like, I would look down and hated myself, hated my leg. And the doctor changed that for me. When he looked at my leg like it was a masterpiece. Like, look at how it healed. And I started to look at it as, like, wow, it's amazing what the human body can do.

53:56
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Unbelievable.

53:57
Amberly Lago

And how it can heal and how it works and how it wants to work properly. It's like fighting to want to work properly.

54:06
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And just think about that as an entrepreneur, right? It's trying to help you. It's trying to wake you up to get balanced in your life. It's trying to wake you up to do the things that are congruent to you. But we live in a society that is constantly more. More grinder, harder. And the body then breaks down, says, you're not listening.

54:26
Amberly Lago

You're not listening. That happens to me all the time. And I think that I will go. That's why I ended up in the ER six times. And I had to go, okay, I have to listen better. Like, we all have to listen. Because it. Your body will whisper and then it will scream, and then sometimes it's too late. And there's one time, so this is crazy, I was passing a kidney stone, and it was so painful in my back that my leg didn't hurt. And I thought to myself, well, this is great. I can walk without a limp. My leg has no pain. So I went to the gym, asked my friend Mike, who was a trainer at the gym, too, and I was like, hey, do you have any, like, Tiger Bomb Bengay? Something I can put on my back? So I put that on my back, wrapped my back, worked out. I went the next day. It wasn't seeming to get better, but again, I'm thinking, well, my leg doesn't hurt because this hurts so bad. I went to go give a motivational talk while I was passing a kidney stone. And I used to, like, I mistook health scares for heroic acts. It was stupid. I ended up going septic. I ended up going into the hospital and the doctor looked at me and he said, this is crazy. You don't look sick. He goes, but you're really sick. He goes, you're septic. I have to admit you to ICU right now. I was in ICU for three days and two different doctors came in and said, if you would have waited one more day, you would have been dead.

55:59
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Wow.

55:59
Amberly Lago

That was the first time I was really, really scared and thought, I have got to take my health seriously and listen to my body. And so I encourage you, if you're listening to this, if you're watching it on YouTube, really listen to your body start to rewire. I want people to rewire their wealth and get your new book and Chasing Success, your other book. But you have tons of videos on Instagram. It's Dr. Rewire. But tell people. I mean, I honestly, I mean, we were going to try to keep this a little shorter, but I could talk to you all day because I'm so fascinated with the work that you're doing and how you can rewire your brain for success, for wealth, for good health, for, you know, it's not about just thinking positive. It's rewiring your brain. So before we go and you tell people, where people can find you, what is one quick. Do you have like, a quick, like, if somebody's in a funk, if somebody's struggling, if they're feeling burnout, what's a quick rewire we can do today?

57:13
Dr. Alok Trivedi

So something you could do. Let's say you're burned out. Okay. A simple thing you could do. And I won't make it complicated, but just ask yourself, if you went and said, okay, what's the expectation that you had, whatever the situation is, if you expected yourself to be married and you got a divorced, if you were expecting yourself.

57:35
Amberly Lago

Okay, now let's take this one. Okay, this is selfish of me. Sorry. That I have this expectation, this big want that wanted to sell out my event within a day, and if you

57:48
Dr. Alok Trivedi

did that, what would have been the draw, the drawback, or the disservice to you?

57:52
Amberly Lago

If I did it, what would be the disservice? That I didn't have enough seats.

57:57
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Okay. What have been the disservice of that? Well, if you actually did, it would have been the disservice to you, would you have learned then more of how to then market? Because right now you're promoting. You're in the promotional game right now.

58:10
Amberly Lago

I am figuring it out. And that's kind of how I am. Like, I've. I just start and I take messy action, I take imperfect action. I've never had anything all figured out. And I learn along the way. But yeah, I'm just like, I've been going live on Instagram. I went live the other day twice. I went live today twice. That is not like me.

58:30
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I know. I saw it. I was like, she's in the moon.

58:32
Intro Voiceover

I was.

58:33
Amberly Lago

I was like, oh, my gosh, Dr. Rewire's here. But. And I mean, I used to get kind of nervous about doing that kind of stuff. I'm not at all, because I'm so passionate about, like, I want people that really need some transformation, need change, that want to make a bigger income so they can make a bigger impact or vice versa to be there.

58:56
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Sure.

58:57
Amberly Lago

And so, yes, I'm learning. So maybe the disservice would be that I wouldn't be learning as much.

59:01
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Great. What are the drawback of that? You'd think you'd had to figure it out.

59:06
Amberly Lago

I would think that it was just easy. And maybe the next one I wouldn't feel like I'd put so much effort or maybe I wouldn't go as big. I don't know.

59:20
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Would you think you would have. The next time you do it, are you gonna have better systems in place?

59:24
Amberly Lago

Heck, yeah.

59:25
Dr. Alok Trivedi

So it's teaching you to actually build your company better.

59:28
Amberly Lago

Yep.

59:28
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Is it going to put more structure in place so that you can actually do it where you don't have to be the one who's always going live and already have. Great. So it's actually making your company more efficient.

59:37
Amberly Lago

It is.

59:38
Dr. Alok Trivedi

It's making you grow further.

59:39
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

59:39
Dr. Alok Trivedi

It's making you understand the difference in marketing, publicity, and that side of it. So you're learning from that capacity. Is that something you're going to be able to help your students with?

59:48
Amberly Lago

Exactly.

59:49
Dr. Alok Trivedi

So they get to learn from your experience.

59:51
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

59:52
Dr. Alok Trivedi

So isn't that what a mentor is really about, to be be able to teach our students?

59:54
Amberly Lago

And that is exactly what I teach and why I started my mastermind is because all the mistakes that I made when I first started, I don't want people to have to make. I want to give them the. I want to time collapse what they're doing and so they don't waste money

60:10
Dr. Alok Trivedi

too so in essence, you just gave your students all the greatest lesson. Isn't teaching your students your number one priority?

60:16
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

60:16
Dr. Alok Trivedi

So you actually, by not filling the seats out in the first day, you're actually teaching them how to actually do this whole thing.

60:22
Amberly Lago

Oh, you're so smart

60:25
Dr. Alok Trivedi

now, are you? Do you feel?

60:28
Amberly Lago

Yeah, I feel. I feel better. I did.

60:31
Dr. Alok Trivedi

You just did something. You just did something.

60:32
Amberly Lago

I exhaled.

60:33
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Exactly.

60:35
Amberly Lago

Because you're right.

60:36
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Where the mind goes, the body goes. As your breathing is balanced, so is your mind. Yeah, we're not going to go there. Because I could go for days on subjects. Because then you talk about HRV and the balance of the HRV and your breath and this work, and as you exhaled that, you literally just took and calmed your nervous system in that system. And that's what we do. That's what I've got to do, is I got to balance that brain so the body and the mind start working together.

61:02
Intro Voiceover

Yeah.

61:03
Amberly Lago

You know what else does that for me is when I pray. It really does. You know, I did. I prayed this morning and I was like, you know, I need to kind of let God take the reins and trust and have faith. Yes, do the work. But it allowed me to just feel a sense of peace and serenity.

61:24
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Absolutely. Nothing wrong with it. Nothing wrong with it.

61:26
Amberly Lago

And you know what happened after I did that also, I got videos sent to me, text messages sent to me, voice messages sent to me. All these people that were like, I really want to help you promote your event.

61:43
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Amazing.

61:44
Amberly Lago

I'm not kidding. I had a video my friend Courtney sent me that. She had me crying tears of gratitude this morning. I was like, I am so blessed. You know, as soon as you kind of excel. So that was good. Thank you for that.

61:58
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Yeah. And it's exhaling and. But rebalancing the nervous system inside the process. Process. So it doesn't hold on to you anymore.

62:06
Amberly Lago

Yeah, I love that. So, okay, y', all, seriously, you gotta come to the event in Raleigh because I want you to experience when he rewires the room. Well, I want to see you and hug your neck too, but go check him out. Dr. Rewire on Instagram. Dr. Rewire.com and is that the best place for people to find? Cuz you do all, all kinds of stuff. Like you're all over the place speaking. I feel so grateful that you're coming to the event to speak, so thank you so much. But you're doing so much and traveling and you're doing your own events too.

62:46
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I'm actually in Dallas for My own event.

62:48
Amberly Lago

Yeah. So tell us about that.

62:49
Dr. Alok Trivedi

So it's an internal event. Once you come into my world, we have levels of. Of courses that I do. I have a program called Ultimate Rewire.

62:57
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

62:58
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And in that it's a. I take people through different levels of journeys. I actually just developed a whole new process on the flight here this morning.

63:05
Amberly Lago

No way.

63:06
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I swear, literally on the flight this morning, I put this whole path together and we're going to do it tomorrow.

63:11
Amberly Lago

Do you know I do some of my best work in airplane lounges or airport lounges or on the airplane.

63:18
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I've been told you should just fly from here to Europe and then take a direct flight back. I'm like, why would I take a direct flight back?

63:25
Amberly Lago

You'll have a whole book written.

63:26
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I'm like, I should just hang out there for a few days too, right?

63:29
Amberly Lago

Yeah.

63:29
Dr. Alok Trivedi

But so. So this program, it's. And then I take people through the next day. I have another program that I do inside of it. And I'll be taking people through, rewiring 300, 400 different root experiences of their lives.

63:43
Amberly Lago

Oh, my goodness.

63:43
Dr. Alok Trivedi

And get their mind and body to a complete state of gratitude in that. So that. That happens in my Ultimate Rewire mastermind group. And so we'll be doing that here this week.

63:53
Intro Voiceover

Wow.

63:54
Amberly Lago

Do you know Master Jeff?

63:56
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I do.

63:57
Amberly Lago

You do? He's one of my best friends.

63:59
Dr. Alok Trivedi

He's a good dude.

64:00
Amberly Lago

Yeah, he is. He is. But when you're saying that he does. He has like an experience, an event where he. It seems kind of crazy. I'd be kind of scared to do it. He keeps you awake for hours and hours and hours and makes you sit up straight. But he's a good dude. So how can people get involved with your course? Do they have to do like a one on one with you first or they can. They just come to your event.

64:23
Dr. Alok Trivedi

They can just go to my. They can go and talk to someone on my team.

64:26
Intro Voiceover

Okay.

64:26
Dr. Alok Trivedi

You just talk to someone on my team. Just. You can go to the. If you go rewire score.com. this is actually probably one of the best things people can do is go to rewirescore.com. i've actually created a scale where people know. Remember I said the have to, need

64:41
Amberly Lago

to, should to, love to.

64:42
Intro Voiceover

Yeah.

64:42
Dr. Alok Trivedi

I've actually created a scale to see what part of your brain you're actually using.

64:46
Amberly Lago

Oh, I think you know which part of my brain I'm using right now, baby. Yeah.

64:51
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Right. But if you go do it, you'll see what part it is. And then you can get on a call with someone on my team and they'll explain to you a little bit more. And if you want to take the further steps and you want to learn more about what you could do in different areas of your life, maybe finance or relationships or health or you want to do ultimate Rewire, you want whatever you want to do, there's opportunity for you to learn and grow in that capacity to be able to heal your life. Ultimately, that's what I'm here to do.

65:12
Amberly Lago

That is amazing. So where is your event here in Dallas? Where's that going to be?

65:15
Dr. Alok Trivedi

At the Western Galleria.

65:17
Amberly Lago

Oh, that's where I had my event.

65:19
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Yeah, that's where I went.

65:20
Amberly Lago

It was great. They have the best food I have.

65:22
Dr. Alok Trivedi

They're great. I love them there.

65:23
Amberly Lago

Do you usually go. Is that where you usually go when you're here in Dallas?

65:26
Dr. Alok Trivedi

Dallas. That's where I end up. Yeah.

65:28
Amberly Lago

Yeah. I had the best experience there. The good food. You can tell I'm a foodie. I'm like, that was the best hotel food. Well, that's awesome. So, yeah, you guys check out if you're, like, out for a run, if you're at the gym or if you're driving. Don't worry. All these links are in the show notes. Check them out. I just appreciate you so much. I'm so excited that I get to hang out with you more in Raleigh. But thank you so much for coming on the show. You guys, if you, like, could take a screenshot if shout it out on Instagram, tag me at Amberly Lago Motivation and Dr. Rewire, so we can see it. When I see that, I share it, my story as well. But I just want to say thank you so much for tuning in to true grit and grace. And thank you so much, Dr. Rewire, for being here.

66:21
Dr. Alok Trivedi

You are an inspiration to so many and continue the work you're doing. The world needs it.

66:24
Amberly Lago

Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you all for tuning in. I'll see you next week.

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